* * * * * * * There are two Christian lawyers named David C. Gibbs – Jr. is the father and III is the son. This post seeks to halt the ongoing confusion about which Gibbs serves as lead attorney for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel in her civil suit against Doug Phillips and Vision Forum.
I recently contacted David C. Gibbs, III. He is the lead attorney for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel in her civil suit against Doug Phillips plus his Vision Forum, Inc., business and his Vision Forum Ministries non-profit. I’d come up against a recurring issue on my own blog with commenters, and on other websites, about exactly which Attorney Gibbs people were talking about – Gibbs III or his father, Gibbs, Jr. I’d also gotten a number of emails and blog post comments that didn’t distinguish between the two.
Spiritual abuse survivors were outraged that Lourdes Torres-Manteufel might be placing the future of her lawsuit in the hands of someone with a notorious reputation for covering up abuse of power.
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But it just didn’t seem to make sense that someone involved in those kinds of cases would take up the case against a patriarchy movement leader like Doug Phillips. So I pursued some leads from Spiritual Sounding Board commenters and others to figure things out. The confusion is understandable, really. Both are lawyers, and Gibbs III did work for/with Gibbs, Jr., at his father’s Christian Law Association (CLA) organization for a period of time. But, given the horrific abuse perpetrated in the above situations, identifying which Gibbs was involved would make a huge difference in having correct details.
The following chart was pieced together from material provided by Attorney David C. Gibbs, III, via email and from his National Center for Life and Liberty (NCLL) website. The few short statements after that were lightly edited from quotes he provided. Attorney Gibbs III then reviewed and approved them before I posted them here at Spiritual Sounding Board. [Click on the chart below to see a larger, clearer version; and click here for a downloadable PDF of this article and the chart.]
It turns out that the son is not very much like his father. The professional paths of the two Gibbs attorneys diverged when the son could not endorse his father’s old-school theology with its patriarchal philosophy.
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Embarrassingly to David, his father has stood with many child abusers in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) world over the years rather than publicly renouncing their sin. David’s father is of that old-school philosophy that tends to cover-up and hide as opposed to being transparent, open, and honest. That is why David’s father meets with Bill Gothard’s board as they try to cover-up and ignore Dr. Gothard’s immoral activities. In stark contrast, David Gibbs III is suing Doug Phillips on behalf of the woman he victimized, Lourdes Torres-Manteufel.
Attorney Gibbs III disagrees with many of the positions, decisions, and recommendations that his father and Christian Law Association support as they spend donated church money to protect and cover-up the moral failings of sinful leaders. Attorney Gibbs III supports and promotes child protection and full ministry transparency and accountability. In David’s opinion, CLA and his father have been on the wrong side of these issues for a number of years. That is one of the many reasons why David Gibbs III cannot endorse and work alongside his aging father in ministry.
Several blog comments had alleged that Attorney Gibbs III had been arrested in Florida on charges of spousal abuse, even linking to the Florida county arrest log to where one could supposedly find the record of the arrest.
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He has NO criminal record, and he and his wife have NEVER had any domestic dispute as falsely alleged in these unsubstantiated and slanderous posts. David and his wife will celebrate twenty-one years of marriage in July 2014.
Attorney Gibbs believes: “If it’s wrong, fight it. If it’s right, fight for it.” His life verse is Matthew 25:40, where Jesus said, “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”
While there was an opportunity to merely copy this material from various comments online, it was important for how we do things at SSB for me to contact Attorney Gibbs III directly, and wait to post this information until I’d heard from him – even while this contains much of the exact same information. I believe we need to separate the fused identities of father and son, move past any temporary association the son had with his father’s patriarchy-supporting CLA, and embrace this man whose philosophy on abuse puts Lourdes Torres-Manteufel in good stead.
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Please keep praying for Lourdes and her husband Nolan, for Attorney Gibbs III’s leadership in the progress of the lawsuit, and for the ultimate uncloaking of Vision Forum and patriarchy as a “total institution” with “bounded choice, ” as Cindy Kunsman’s guest post series has been exploring in detail. This case is strategic to shining the light of truth on this dark and abusive movement.
UPDATE from Julie Anne 5/27/14: Since posting this article, a couple of commenters have provided more information regarding David Gibbs III that I was unaware of. Please read the comments. While this information is worth noting (and hopefully we can get some of it cleared up), I believe we must stand behind Lourdes and this lawsuit. Also, minor edits were made today to correct grammar and to clarify points.Finishing university with a Bachelor of Jurisprudence and a Bachelor of Laws from Monash University, David founded David Gibbs & Associates at the young age of 26. Though hiring experienced staff is always important, David has also enjoyed fostering young talent as well, often giving people their first job and the chance to grow and learn while working in the business.
When not talking legal matters, David has a strong commitment to the Country Fire Authority. He has been a volunteer for over 40 years and Westernport Group Officer for over 20 years. He is also a Level 3 Incident Controller, and from 2006 to 2011 he was one of the Volunteer Representatives on the CFA Board.
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It’s a rare day when you find David wearing in tie. In fact, it’s a rare day when you find him in long sleeves.
Though his early years were spent in Bendigo and Essendon, David has been a Mornington Peninsula local since the 1970s. He holidayed on the beaches of Somers with his family from early childhood, as did his wife so naturally it was Somers where they chose to live. Who can blame them.
Growing up in southern New South Wales, Helen began her working life in local government, completing a Bachelor of Business as an external student while working full time. After deciding on a career change she then completed a law degree at Macquarie University. Following her admission as a lawyer, Helen worked at a small commercial firm in Adelaide for nearly 10 years before returning to New South Wales and practising in Commercial Law, Family Law and Criminal Law.
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In 2012 Helen and her partner relocated to the Peninsula to be closer to family at Sorrento. Helen is a keen cyclist (and former triathlete) and has been enjoying exploring the area in her spare time. She loves the Peninsula lifestyle and looks forward to being part of the local community.
These days Helen works predominantly in Family Law but is able to draw on her commercial background to assist clients with a broad range of issues.
Marie began her legal career at a firm in the city when she was in her late teens, in a world that was vastly different, especially in terms of technology. An old-fashioned plug-in switchboard managed the phone calls and carbon paper was used to make copies. A solicitor, with pipe in mouth, would pace up and down dictating letters to a young secretary on a ribbon typewriter. The secretary would hope she didn’t make a mistake or have to stop for something to be repeated. Quality was the key and there were no second chances. Marie believes this training set the benchmark.
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After a move to the Peninsula with a young family in the 1970s, having lived in the suburbs all her life, Marie took a part time position in the Frankston legal practice where David was an Articled Clerk. Soon after David started DG&A Marie came to work with him, and they have been working together building the business ever since.
Early on Marie worked in all areas of the law, but has now been in Conveyancing for over 20 years. She has seen many changes and still learns things every day. Buying and selling property can be a stressful experience and it’s Marie’s philosophy to make that experiences as stress-free as possible, beginning with a relationship based on trust.
As practice manager at DG&A for many years Marie is proud of the care and respect for clients which is instilled in all staff members. Though the technology has changed, the basic skills have not: a commitment to quality and a respect
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